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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880485">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>hi <del>@<em>T-compiler/meeting</em></del> <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span>  ; our meeting is tomorrow (not today), but if anyone has anything to report <em>today</em>, it would be great if you could put it on the existing paper doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880500">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>can you link the doc here?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880561" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880561">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be">triage document</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880740">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>did you want to notify wg-nll ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880778" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880778">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>omg</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880784">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116113">@lqd</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158880790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158880790">(Feb 19 2019 at 13:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry all, the above note was meant for <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158918971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158918971">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>ordinarily I'd save my pretriage effort for tomorrow, but since I'm about to try to write these notes for the compiler team repo, I'll do it now.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919052">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Though I'm also realizing that maybe the right way to handle the NLL notes is simply to use the notes from <em>last Wednesday's meeting</em> as the initial entry for the compiler team notes. Not sure, its sort of goofy since then we'll have the NLL meeting itself in the interim before the actually compiler team meeting.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919107">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>((tl;dr: we have a race condition.))</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919256">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, pretriage: We currently have zero uncategorized issues. <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919336">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have 27 categorized issues that are lacking a P-label.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919483" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919483">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets nip these in the bud</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919486">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>"MIR borrowck: obscure error message for move out of struct with destructor" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46634" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/46634">#46634</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919504">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is a feature request; the message from NLL is superior to that from AST-borrowck.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919508" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919508">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>therefore, marking as P-low</p>



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<p>Next: "<code>augmented-assignments</code> test output has poor spans in NLL" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51000" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51000">#51000</a></p>



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<p>The issue here is a bit inflated since I think the pattern</p>
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<p>is quite  rare</p>



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<p>marking P-low. And also pinging <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> to see if they still want it assigned to them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158919912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158919912">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Next: "Unclear "cannot infer" error message instead of expected "cannot move out of borrowed content"" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51759" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51759">#51759</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920026">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>the issue here, as <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51759#issuecomment-401459019" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51759#issuecomment-401459019">niko noted back in June 2018</a>, predates NLL: essentially our diagnostics when it comes to auto-injected reborrows+derefs coercions is subpar and confusing.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920085" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920085">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this is an aspect of Rust that we need to do a better job of communicating. A lot of our audience is unlikely to be familiar with the notions here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920089" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920089">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>so marking P-medium.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920208">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "[nll] change how MIR represents places" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52708" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52708">#52708</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920217" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920217">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is a cross-cutting concern, not NLL specific at all, IMO.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920362">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems it has moved to "t-compiler place 2.0" MIR2/etc after all hands, but I'm not sure if there's an issue for it there yet ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920446">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep. The Paper doc for t-compiler place 2.0 does link to issue <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52708" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/52708">#52708</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920463" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920463">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I'm just going to remove the NLL tag(s) from it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920600">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:29)</a>:</h4>
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<p>marking P-low. And also pinging <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> to see if they still want it assigned to them.</p>
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<p>Yes, this is still on my list for when I have time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920602">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "[nll] hash borrows in scope for better performance" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53159" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53159">#53159</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920634" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920634">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm. It sounds like it is not clear whether this idea would still be much of a win. Maybe it would be good, but I'm not in a position to judge at the moment.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920791" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920791">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm tempted to mark it P-medium, though I'm a little worried then it will be ignored forever even though it shouldn't be</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920802">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it's related to place 2.0 as well ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920814">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>is it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920880">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel those issues came up around the same piece of code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920892">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>requiring unroll_place and the likes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158920928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158920928">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll explicitly leave it unprioritized for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921113" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921113">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: ""invert" borrow computation" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53328" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53328">#53328</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921182">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>now this one niko explicitly <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53328#issuecomment-420286526" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53328#issuecomment-420286526">pointed out</a> last September that we are better off waiting until we've made more progress on Polonius before we invest much effort here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921188">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>(lol or maybe it was <em>this</em> one related to place 2.0 sorry felix :) (but these are all more or less interconnected)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921243">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know, in either case it seems like the computation here is tied to how we propagate borrows</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921297">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>which I think of as being mostly decoupled from the underlying representation of Places themselves?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921499">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah from the representation but not the uses of the new representation, I'm probably unclear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921519">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay I'm going to stop pre-triaging now, I wasn't planning to spend too much time on this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921532" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921532">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you need any help with it ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921545" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921545">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, I just realized its not a good use of my time right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921632" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921632">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had hoped it would "naturally" lead to whatever notes I enter into <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/blob/master/working-groups/nll/NOTES.md" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/blob/master/working-groups/nll/NOTES.md">rust-lang/compiler-team WG-nll notes</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158921691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158921691">(Feb 19 2019 at 21:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually ... Place 2.0 is probably a decent topic for us to plug in there, given that different people have thoughts on it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/158997485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> lqd <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#158997485">(Feb 20 2019 at 17:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>(sorry but I might not be able to make it to tonight's meeting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011370" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011370">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh yeah, hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span> , we have a meeting in ... about six minutes <span aria-label="fear" class="emoji emoji-1f628" role="img" title="fear">:fear:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011431" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011431">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I didn't finish the pretriage that I started last night</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011439">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I guess I can spend five minutes now doing more of it. <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011630">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>"NLL reports "borrow used here in later iteration of loop" in cases outside of loop" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53773">#53773</a> =&gt; P-medium. (Already assigned to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> and has a PR)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011649">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>" fix "bivariant wf" bug in the NLL subtyping code" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54105" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54105">#54105</a> =&gt; leaving unprioritized for now but I'm inclined to tag as P-medium given that we still don't know whether this can be exploited.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011694">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>"High memory usage compiling <code>keccak</code> benchmark" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54208" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54208">#54208</a> =&gt; WG-compiler-performance, P-medium</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011861" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011861">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Poor borrow checker error message" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54256" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54256">#54256</a> =&gt; needs a better title. P-medium</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159011972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159011972">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="491">@WG-compiler-nll</span> lets get started.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012053">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>So our agenda has effectively three items on it: Status updates, the Meta-Question of "What is this meeting for", and a new item I added "last minute" last night: Place 2.0</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012124">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Everyone feel free to add whatever you like about status updates to <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage--AX93jFGguWbSA9m2kiJU~~jvAg-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Non-lexical-lifetimes-NLL-Triage--AX93jFGguWbSA9m2kiJU~~jvAg-Em2cJrvxQMMFWLE7lE5Be">the NLL triage paper</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012194">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regarding status, I had the rough impression that bors/homu had a really time this past week. Did anyone else feel that way? It seemed like pulling teeth to get anything merged.</p>



<a name="159012291"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012291">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe there were a variety of issues with the CI providers throughout the week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012382">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Anyway: Lets maybe try to open the floor now to talk about this meeting itself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012424">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and I plan to put a cap of about 10-12 minutes on such discussion before we move on to Place 2.0)</p>



<a name="159012478"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012478">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I really liked the idea of converting this meeting into a space where we can "hack" together or ask questions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012518">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but unsure if triaging and all that is helping you <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> in any way</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012521">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can try that. I would like to see something more vibrant.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012530" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012530">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>But of course issues will still need to get triaged.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012554">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I recognize I haven't done any issue triaging and neither help there, I can start doing so and tackling random tickets too :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012556">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>so far the meeting has been a kind of driver to force me to do triage</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012573" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012573">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>hehe that's important :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012577">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't mind doing triage, at least for now, but I need to keep myself honest about making sure it gets done.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012593">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>more importantly, though: Part of triage is to actually assign work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012644">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>namely the P-high issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012655" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012655">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can trick you that this meeting is for triaging and changing to something different everytime :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012679">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>well yeah, that's important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012687">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>my current thinking is that I can have a weekly topic dedicated to triage, e.g. "triage 2019.02.27" would be next week's.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012690">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’m happy with that. I’ve mostly not been doing a lot of NLL tasks so the meeting for me is just checking if there’s any high priority items that nobody has earmarked that I might have time for. It seems like most everything has assignee perpetually now?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012706">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>what about redifining the meeting as work assign + working together/questions?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012723">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>as for assigning work, what would people think if I just assigned the tasks during the triage process, but people would obviously feel free to object/unassign/delegate?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012727" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012727">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>When I started typing that message, “that” referred to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>’s suggestion about this meetings purpose.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012760" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012760">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>as for assigning work, what would people think if I just assigned the tasks during the triage process, but people would obviously feel free to object/unassign/delegate?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah, maybe that's even better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012764">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> yeah I don't think we've had too many instances of unassigned P-high issues.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012808">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>or you could even chat with us async</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012814">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also fine with that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012834">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm fine with you assigning stuff to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012839" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012839">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. So lets plan to give the open discussion/office hours time a shot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012846">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only issue I see with that is that we may be working on something different</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012849">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>normally I'd say something like "starting next week"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012854">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>like Place 2.0, Polonius or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012860" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012860">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in fact the next agenda item is Place 2.0</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012871" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012871">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>which is arguably a good "office hour" topic anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012895">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I saw some back-and-forth between you and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012905" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012905">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>the only issue I see with that is that we may be working on something different</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I was referring to your idea of you assigning stuff to us</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012908">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>but ok, we moved to the next topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012912">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012914">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I saw some back-and-forth between you and <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> about it</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012920" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012920">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't need to move on quite yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012928">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>like Place 2.0, Polonius or something like that</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I assume Polonius is purview of <a class="stream" data-stream-id="186049" href="/#narrow/stream/186049-t-compiler.2Fwg-polonius">#t-compiler/wg-polonius</a> now.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012980">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't want to move on if there are questions/ideas to continue with</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012991">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>regarding the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159012992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159012992">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013003">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’m happy to move on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013015">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>so lets recap: For now, I'll continue doing weekly triage.  I'll asynchronously assign work to people.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013025" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013025">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll try to be semi-balanced</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013027">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ... I think Felix's idea of assigning stuff to us is great because it removes some process of the table</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013054" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013054">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>but on the other hand, what if we are working on something heavy like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013063" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013063">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>regardless of the working group it belongs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013065">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>in terms of trying to recognize which people seem to already have a lot on their plate and/or not enough time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013084">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I guess we can just chat about tasks with you directly?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013088" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013088">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the most important thing is that people need to be honest/realistic about their time availability</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013095">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013112" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013112">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>namely, if you have a week where you won't be around to even look at what work is assigned to you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013161">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I really need to know that ahead of time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013171" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013171">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013177">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>unless we're going to request explicit acknowledgement of work assignment?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013183" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013183">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could perhaps signal that in the triage document for the upcoming week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013192">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm fine with either, we can always talk about stuff :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013209">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is: I can either 1. assign work by using the "Assignee" list in Github issue, or 2. Leave "Assignee" blank and just <em>ask</em> people to assign themselves.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013222">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>The more I think about it, the more I think (2.) <em>might</em> be better...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013243">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Isn’t 2) what currently happens?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013249">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>since I'm very nervous about giving other deveopers the wrong impression about what is being actively worked on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013300">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think 2 is better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013309">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, 2. is what currently happens, but we often do it synchronously (right?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013317" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013317">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. during the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013325">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Isn’t 2) what currently happens?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I guess, Felix is suggesting to do it async rather than in this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013359">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>if so, agreed :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013369">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>while the suggestion would be, I guess, to instead make the request asynchronously. My plan would be to post both in a Github comment <em>and</em> in the Zulip triage topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013396">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe I’ve just not been paying enough attention. I thought most issues already had assignees by the time we got to the meeting in recent weeks. I’m happy with either approach, not too bothered.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013510">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>My plan would be to post both in a Github comment <em>and</em> in the Zulip triage topic</p>
</blockquote>
<p>(the reason I would opt to do both, and not just Github comment, is that I know for myself that my Github notifications are totally out of control. So I would want, for others doing this to me, for them to use additional channels rather than github alone.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013533" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013533">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay then, I think i think know how to handle things going forward then.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013541">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Longer-term, we may want to rotate the actual triage duty itself.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013554">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I am willing to wait before trying to do that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013562">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, any other thoughts before Place 2.0 ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013569">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>no</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013577">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's jump into Place 2.0</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013590">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, yeah, I have been talking to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013596" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013596">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are a couple of documents</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013608">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets link that topic maybe</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013659" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013659">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/place.202.2E0" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/place.202.2E0">zulip t-compiler place2.0</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013684" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013684">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>exactly, went for the link you beat me :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013713" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013713">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0--AX5Ih7aoGsihZcG5EiMuTZ4DAg-9NjhX4N9I3dEt6YCJM8Ln" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0--AX5Ih7aoGsihZcG5EiMuTZ4DAg-9NjhX4N9I3dEt6YCJM8Ln">https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0--AX5Ih7aoGsihZcG5EiMuTZ4DAg-9NjhX4N9I3dEt6YCJM8Ln</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013720">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0-current-PR-status--AX6hBHPBw5yIf3FWVl2Ouqd8Ag-vmbnFv8VkCEuL57QfWWMH" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0-current-PR-status--AX6hBHPBw5yIf3FWVl2Ouqd8Ag-vmbnFv8VkCEuL57QfWWMH">https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0-current-PR-status--AX6hBHPBw5yIf3FWVl2Ouqd8Ag-vmbnFv8VkCEuL57QfWWMH</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013741">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oli wanted to take a different approach</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013760" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013760">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we can make tiny steps and be able to merge work faster</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013785">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>for me would be the same but Oli stated that in the way they proposed is going to be easier to review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013789" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013789">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's a fair point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013793">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the main question I have had is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013864">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are both/either of you confident that the API will work with <code>NeoPlace</code> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013891">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>what API?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013897" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013897">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>the iterate thing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013906">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0-current-PR-status--AX8n7CYGuqSMc7DqMhg7L~rMAg-vmbnFv8VkCEuL57QfWWMH#:uid=518781409188999927847299&amp;h2=oli-obk-musings-for-incrementa" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Place-2.0-current-PR-status--AX8n7CYGuqSMc7DqMhg7L~rMAg-vmbnFv8VkCEuL57QfWWMH#:uid=518781409188999927847299&amp;h2=oli-obk-musings-for-incrementa">oli's musings</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013916">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013966" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013966">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>when I was playing with this locally, I got hung up on first trying to redo <code>NeoPlace</code> from scratch, so that I could <em>then</em> make the iteration API on top it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159013986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159013986">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>because I wanted to make sure that whatever the iteration API was, it would actually work with either <code>Place</code> or  <code>NeoPlace</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014039">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>well it should be compatible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014040">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think part of the goal in my head was to have something that would cover <em>all</em> the use-cases, some how</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014052">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>since we are going to return Projections one by one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014053">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014064" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014064">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>while Oli's musings expliclty say implement <em>some</em> of the place processing algorithms (emphasis on "some")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014101">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, Oli wasn't 100%, I told him ok I can start with the first steps and we can see how it ends</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014125" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014125">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>would be fairly easy to do the first part of the work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014138">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I ended with a lot of meetings today but I guess I can finish the thing tomorrow, maybe</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014194">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014199">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>one thing I will say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014215" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014215">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>even following the previous approach the change is doable and merge conflicts are not that bad or weren't that bad really</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014222">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>the thing I understood is that it could be a pain to review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014291">(Feb 20 2019 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>By "previous approach" do you mean "have both <code>Place</code> and <code>NeoPlace</code> side by side in the code", converting between them as needed?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014380" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014380">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>or are you referring to something else there?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014403">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, to that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014422">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm okay. I actually would have expected lots of merge conflicts.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014443">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>but ... well okay I'll just be surprised for now.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014452" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014452">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>the main problem with that approach was that we converted from Place to NeoPlace and viceversa freely</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014463" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014463">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>and that's not mergeable until we finish all the work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014473" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014473">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>otherwise would be a huge performance regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014479" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014479">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014574">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I believe there could exist a way to structure a single PR broken up into several commits where each commit was relatively easy to review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014595">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I also prefer the "iterator API" approach, assuming it works.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014616">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014617">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are eddy’s concerns from the current status document still relevant or have those been resolved?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014640" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014640">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>the main advice I have there is that I had worried (and I still worry) about someone getting bogged down with trying to make the iterator API "look nice"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014668">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>by this, I mean, I don't know, something like trying to figure out how to make a method on <code>Place</code>  that returns an <code>Iterator</code> over its projections</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014725">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>but reading <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> 's notes now, I'm happy to see that they did not impose that in their sketch.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014726" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014726">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Are eddy’s concerns from the current status document still relevant or have those been resolved?</p>
</blockquote>
<p><code>and reinterning a lot instead of slicing/iterating projection lists (which is what the recursive code would’ve done had it been written for a flat structure),</code> unsure about this, the rest I guess it's solved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014759">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>but anyway, we are kind of starting from scratch</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014763">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014783">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>a lot of the code was not written by me, so I'm not 100% sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014805">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>now I can pay more attention to this kind of details</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014815" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014815">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>is <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> jumping back in on this? Or are you doing it on your own? Or is something else assisting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014874">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure about <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> but I can do it on my own</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014878">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014891">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I need to walk my dog. But this all sounds fine with me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014894">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could pair or something with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> unsure their schedule and stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159014948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159014948">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>So if you are starting from scratch, are you going to create an entirely new branch? Or are you going to force-push to your old <code>place2</code> branch?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015044" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015044">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably will make a copy of the current thing as <code>place2_old</code> and force push to <code>place2</code> the new code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015267">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay. I'm going to go walk my dog now. If anyone has any questions, feel free to throw them in here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015407">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did you agree whether you or NIko would review <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57609" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57609">#57609</a> and <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57202">#57202</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015481" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015481">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>that hasn't been discussed but should be.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015498">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I should review the match changes just to get it off niko's plate.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015560">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> I hate to ask again regarding <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57609" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57609">#57609</a>, but: The diagram in the description reflects the <em>current</em> status, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015586">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I'm sure you've answered that Q before, that's why I hate to ask)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015679">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>It shows both the old and the new status and should be up-to date. I'll just double check.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015719" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015719">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>and for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57202">#57202</a> -- you say there's another branch that you think is more principled and a smaller diff?  .... what's the drawback? Why not just switch to that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015741">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>or you already pushed that version to the branch that's currently reflected on PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57202" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57202">#57202</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015846">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>There are 3 versions. The first version is gone now. The other branch has the second version. And the current PR is the third version.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015888" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015888">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's probably best to just review the third.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015968">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>It shows both the old and the new status and should be up-to date. I'll just double check.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, the diagram is correct.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159015978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159015978">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:20)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>It's probably best to just review the third.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>okay. I'll assign review of that one to me as well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159016282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Matthew Jasper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159016282">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159017315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159017315">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:37)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Okay. I'm going to go walk my dog now. If anyone has any questions, feel free to throw them in here.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What is the dog's name? <span aria-label="dog" class="emoji emoji-1f415" role="img" title="dog">:dog:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159017559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159017559">(Feb 20 2019 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Elmo" ; it is short for "El Monstre" (he is originally from Spain and is a monster). <span aria-label="alien" class="emoji emoji-1f47d" role="img" title="alien">:alien:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159025271" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> csmoe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159025271">(Feb 20 2019 at 23:32)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> I can still help if you wanna.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159025557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> csmoe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159025557">(Feb 20 2019 at 23:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> And for the "assignment", please consider me a chance if suitable. I'm eager to dive deeper into rustc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159070963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159070963">(Feb 21 2019 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> yeah, we can go something if you want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159076191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> csmoe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159076191">(Feb 21 2019 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> okay so I'm gonna follow you path</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159077954" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159077954">(Feb 21 2019 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> I mean, I don't know exactly how to share the work still but we could pair if you want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159078006" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159078006">(Feb 21 2019 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can also just do the work if you want to do something different</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159078011" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159078011">(Feb 21 2019 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>whatever you prefer ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159078055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159078055">(Feb 21 2019 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>or you could just follow the branch and jump when you want to add something :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly%20meeting%202019.02.20/near/159078714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> csmoe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122657-t-compiler/wg-nll/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019.2E02.2E20.html#159078714">(Feb 21 2019 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>or you could just follow the branch and jump when you want to add something <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>will track your branch</p>



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